Comments on: Guide to Frost PvE: Talents http://spicytunas.com/2009/12/guide-to-frost-pve-talents/ Sat, 19 May 2012 07:24:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: DarthRegis http://spicytunas.com/2009/12/guide-to-frost-pve-talents/comment-page-1/#comment-19798 DarthRegis Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:15:57 +0000 http://spicytunas.com/?p=4321#comment-19798 @ Marcos. For something like Patchwerk, I suspect it's something like this: Spam Frostbolt. Use Deep Freeze when Fingers of Frost procs. Should DF still be on cooldown, spam FrB. For something that requires some movement, probably toss in a CoC or Ice Lance while on the run. Unless, of course, you have a FoF proc to use - then lay the smackdown with a running DF. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I know, I know... it's hard to believe I'm wrong about anything, but it has happened once or twice. ;) .-= DarthRegis´s last blog ..<a href="http://waywardinitiative.wordpress.com/2009/12/10/what-about-bob/" rel="nofollow">What About BOB? (aka: The Measure of Influence)</a> =-. @ Marcos.

For something like Patchwerk, I suspect it’s something like this:

Spam Frostbolt. Use Deep Freeze when Fingers of Frost procs.
Should DF still be on cooldown, spam FrB.

For something that requires some movement, probably toss in a CoC or Ice Lance while on the run. Unless, of course, you have a FoF proc to use – then lay the smackdown with a running DF.

Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong. I know, I know… it’s hard to believe I’m wrong about anything, but it has happened once or twice. ;)
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]]> By: Marcos http://spicytunas.com/2009/12/guide-to-frost-pve-talents/comment-page-1/#comment-19797 Marcos Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:48:11 +0000 http://spicytunas.com/?p=4321#comment-19797 Spell rotation plz!! :D Spell rotation plz!! :D

]]> By: Bludreaver http://spicytunas.com/2009/12/guide-to-frost-pve-talents/comment-page-1/#comment-19792 Bludreaver Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:42:30 +0000 http://spicytunas.com/?p=4321#comment-19792 I also like Cold as Ice for the reduced cooldown on the Water Elemental. It's not as easy as it looks to always keep him (her?) alive, so I find myself summoning him as far in advance as I can so that the cooldown is up in case he bites it during a boss fight. Cold Snap is my second emergency button, so during the course of a fight I can lose him twice and still bring him back in. .-= Bludreaver´s last blog ..<a href="http://icy-veins.blogspot.com/2009/11/achievements-personal-and-guild.html" rel="nofollow">Achievements - Personal and Guild</a> =-. I also like Cold as Ice for the reduced cooldown on the Water Elemental. It’s not as easy as it looks to always keep him (her?) alive, so I find myself summoning him as far in advance as I can so that the cooldown is up in case he bites it during a boss fight. Cold Snap is my second emergency button, so during the course of a fight I can lose him twice and still bring him back in.
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]]> By: Bludreaver http://spicytunas.com/2009/12/guide-to-frost-pve-talents/comment-page-1/#comment-19791 Bludreaver Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:38:33 +0000 http://spicytunas.com/?p=4321#comment-19791 I've found some interesting things play with rawr. First off that Brain Freeze can be used to actually increase DPS, but you can only use it with the ghost charge of Fingers of Frost, and if you do go down that road then Spell Impact is actually better to take than Student of the Mind. Overall Student of the Mind has very little impact on my DPS. The improvement on my crit rating is less than 1%, while Spell Impacts gives 6% extra fireball damage, stacked with a 75%+ crit chance (remember with shatter ALL your spells get +50% crit chance), means a whole heck of a lot more DPS than an Ice Lance shatter combo. As for mana, I've had 0 mana issues with frost. After having gotten used to using my Mana Gem and Evocation with Arcane Spec, going back to frost feels almost like I have an endless mana pool. Stack that with replenishment and it just goes on and on. .-= Bludreaver´s last blog ..<a href="http://icy-veins.blogspot.com/2009/11/achievements-personal-and-guild.html" rel="nofollow">Achievements - Personal and Guild</a> =-. I’ve found some interesting things play with rawr. First off that Brain Freeze can be used to actually increase DPS, but you can only use it with the ghost charge of Fingers of Frost, and if you do go down that road then Spell Impact is actually better to take than Student of the Mind. Overall Student of the Mind has very little impact on my DPS. The improvement on my crit rating is less than 1%, while Spell Impacts gives 6% extra fireball damage, stacked with a 75%+ crit chance (remember with shatter ALL your spells get +50% crit chance), means a whole heck of a lot more DPS than an Ice Lance shatter combo.

As for mana, I’ve had 0 mana issues with frost. After having gotten used to using my Mana Gem and Evocation with Arcane Spec, going back to frost feels almost like I have an endless mana pool. Stack that with replenishment and it just goes on and on.
.-= Bludreaver´s last blog ..Achievements – Personal and Guild =-.

]]> By: Pajero http://spicytunas.com/2009/12/guide-to-frost-pve-talents/comment-page-1/#comment-19785 Pajero Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:53:17 +0000 http://spicytunas.com/?p=4321#comment-19785 And the rotation is? And the rotation is?

]]> By: Tuna http://spicytunas.com/2009/12/guide-to-frost-pve-talents/comment-page-1/#comment-19745 Tuna Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:48:25 +0000 http://spicytunas.com/?p=4321#comment-19745 @ krizzly Good call. I completely wrote off Cold as Ice since it was no longer necessary to use Cold Snap to call out an extra Water Elemental anymore. I shall add that to the list. @ Bluedreaver Good point on the Precision, though with the amount of Blizzarding I've been doing lately in the new dungeons/raid, the reduced mana cost of Blizzard is nice to have. But if I did have those extra 3 points... hmm... I might get Cold as Ice like krizzly suggested, and Frost Warding for good measure. With the amount of Frost damage you'll be taking in the new Ice Crown dungeons/raids, having Frostward give you back mana is nice to have. @ krizzly

Good call. I completely wrote off Cold as Ice since it was no longer necessary to use Cold Snap to call out an extra Water Elemental anymore. I shall add that to the list.

@ Bluedreaver

Good point on the Precision, though with the amount of Blizzarding I’ve been doing lately in the new dungeons/raid, the reduced mana cost of Blizzard is nice to have. But if I did have those extra 3 points… hmm… I might get Cold as Ice like krizzly suggested, and Frost Warding for good measure.

With the amount of Frost damage you’ll be taking in the new Ice Crown dungeons/raids, having Frostward give you back mana is nice to have.

]]> By: Bludreaver http://spicytunas.com/2009/12/guide-to-frost-pve-talents/comment-page-1/#comment-19720 Bludreaver Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:40:19 +0000 http://spicytunas.com/?p=4321#comment-19720 Tuna, I think that with the amount of hit on tier 9 gear and above that Precision becomes an optional talent instead of a requirement. The 3% reduction in mana cost is negligible, as mana has never been an issue with the frost tree. Without having to take precision it frees up some points to spread around into more interesting talents, like Frostbite, Permafrost, Improved Blizzard, Cold as Ice, or Enduring Winter. I also missed out on 3/3 Student of the Mind in my build, which I think is a superior choice to 3/3 Spell Impact, given that 35% of your spirit is turned into spell crit by Molten Armor. I'll have to run the build through rawr and see what comes back. .-= Bludreaver´s last blog ..<a href="http://icy-veins.blogspot.com/2009/11/achievements-personal-and-guild.html" rel="nofollow">Achievements - Personal and Guild</a> =-. Tuna,

I think that with the amount of hit on tier 9 gear and above that Precision becomes an optional talent instead of a requirement. The 3% reduction in mana cost is negligible, as mana has never been an issue with the frost tree. Without having to take precision it frees up some points to spread around into more interesting talents, like Frostbite, Permafrost, Improved Blizzard, Cold as Ice, or Enduring Winter. I also missed out on 3/3 Student of the Mind in my build, which I think is a superior choice to 3/3 Spell Impact, given that 35% of your spirit is turned into spell crit by Molten Armor. I’ll have to run the build through rawr and see what comes back.
.-= Bludreaver´s last blog ..Achievements – Personal and Guild =-.

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]]> By: krizzlybear http://spicytunas.com/2009/12/guide-to-frost-pve-talents/comment-page-1/#comment-19698 krizzlybear Wed, 09 Dec 2009 13:50:24 +0000 http://spicytunas.com/?p=4321#comment-19698 I think Cold as Ice is worth mentioning. I really like the shortened cooldown on Ice Barrier for extra survivability, as well as Cold Snap on longer fights. I think Cold as Ice is worth mentioning. I really like the shortened cooldown on Ice Barrier for extra survivability, as well as Cold Snap on longer fights.

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